jacky wrote:I dont think it was THP, it could have been, THP is tasteless pretty much, but taking a gram or even a half gram of THP would probably put most people down for the night, and they would most likely DEFINITELY notice something.
anyway, 80-90% THP products are usually yellowish crystals...not pure white.
china blue was a fucking scam.
150 +/- mg of thp puts my lab rat down for a good hour or two. I dunno what a whole gram would do! Holy cow!
The duration seems to be pretty short, maybe four or five hours. Maybe a larger quantity would just last longer. Not tempted to push it past 150 mg, though. 75 mg is just about right for my rat, for anxiety. Wouldn't classify it to be euphoric, at all.
Oh, and yes, the crystals are off white, for sure. Doubtful that the "crystals" are thp. Could be thp mixed with a binder/filler of some sort.
From what I've read, THP blocks domamine, causing sedation. But I haven't read much research. For my rat, it feels like it attaches to the bzp receptors, but he doesn't have much experience with it. From the couple of times where he's become so relaxed, and fall asleep, it was very similar in effects and actions to a certain highly perscribed benzodiazapine to him.
But, for those of you intrigued by my comparison, proceed with caution. I'm in no way a medical professional, but I bet you could become dependent on it with regular use. I could be wrong, especially if it blocks dopamine. But that is a whole different topic that I haven't researched whatsoever. Be wary of taking it with cns depressants. Hate to be a chicken little, but better safe than sorry. And, as I mentioned, thp is in no way euphoric.
I would recommend trying sliced corydalis to start, then the 5X, and then isolated thp, if you are inclined to do so. My rat is tempted to make a mixture of all three. Would have to apply the thp to the ground sliced corydalis, because of it's low dosage, to make sure the mixture would be homogenous. It would require REALLY good mixing as well, even with the thp applied to the ground sliced corydalis. Wouldn't want the mixture to not be homogenous, and unintentionally take too much of the 5X. Would probably be the best idea to weigh each indidvidual dosage unit separately, to be sure, and just take a very small single dosage unit of each.
Looks like with mice (not the best comparison, though, especially for rats like mine), it seems the LD50 for thp is incredibly high. Over 1 gram/kg. Scroll down towards the bottom after clicking on the link to get past the drivel. This is huge! And this study suggests 25-75 mg daily of THP would be beneficial, although it doesn't say why. From what I've gathered from this study is that THP does not help hyperthyroidism.http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/52...scription.html
From what I've read, most "sleepytime" pills containing isolated thp are standardized to 25 to 30 mg a pill (of l-thp, just one half of the 80-90% of what I believe to be racemic dl-thp available.) The L-THP is supposedly responsible for the hypnotic effects.
So, from what I've gathered, 25 mg of l-thp is just about as potent for sleep as 50 mg of the 80% thp isolated from corydalis root available. As far as the d-thp, not sure of the effects. Could work with the l-thp to increase the sedation, so 50 mg of pure dl-thp may possibly be more powerful than 25 mg of l-thp.
I could be wrong and the isolated thp could be just l-thp, but I'd bet on it being racemic.
But yeah, as jacky said, 1 gram of thp would definately put one down for the count all night.
My rats wouldn't take more than 50 or so mg of the 80% thp during daytime hours, or anytime they need to be awake and aware. This may vary from person to person. As always, your mileage may vary. Proceed with caution and always start small, and work your way up. That way you don't end up eating your hat or in a compromised position. My rat started with 25, then 50, then 75, 100, etc.
Also, my rat noticed it does not dissolve in water, so he weighs it out onto a peice of paper, and drops it onto his tongue, washing it down with copious amounts of water swished around his mouth for good measure.
My rat thinks that it would dissolve into vodka, for easy dosing with a pipet for concentrated solutions, and with one of those childrens measuring spoons for mixtures more dilute. (The ones that look like a graduated cylinder with a spoon mouth at the end. Think they're graduted to 10 mL - 2 teaspoons - maybe only 5 mL)