The Tried and the True (New Garden)

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The Tried and the True (New Garden) -

Postby Eso18 » Thu May 01, 2008 1:15 am

I've been off and on this forum for about a year and have researched my fair deal of ethno's and "active" plants. The only problem is that i have never been able to come up with a definitive list of the plants i want to grow. I live in SW Colorado and spring is just gettin started here. I'm puttin forth the effort to build a garden this year but i need advice on which plants to put into it.

I've thought of Papaver, Pedro, and Kanna; but don't want to put forth the effort if they will just end up dying. Basically I want some plants that have a proven reputation, with effects that are quite noticeable. I'm willing to grow a few inside the house if they are not adapted to a dry climate, but i have limited space.

So what are your tried and true plants? Ones that you consider a favorite, that you respect, that you love to have in your garden, and whose effects are potent and reliable.

Post or send me a PM,

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Re: The Tried and the True (New Garden) -

Postby crazydewman » Thu May 01, 2008 1:27 am

papaver, although illegal, is a great one....
pedro and kanna would have to be brought inside over the winter. the cacti can go dormant if you keep them cool, but you'd probably have to give the kanna light to let it keep growin (it does pretty well under artificial lighting if it gets enough)
otherwise i am more of an herbsman and food
those are great too
oh tobacco is always fun

think about growin some more than eatin them though (not when it comes to the food plants though lol)
the pedro and poppies for instance
esp the poppies
carelessness in that dept and you are in deep fuckin shit! and aint no one gunna pull you out...



otherwise...check out erowid.org
check the 'usefull plants database' here
pfaf.org
see what you'd like to grow cause thats what its about
really many plants can be made to survive outside of their natural ranges
they might not be hardy, but one season might be good enough, or if you have room keep them in pots and overwinter them indoors
its really up to you what you want
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Re: The Tried and the True (New Garden) -

Postby Eso18 » Thu May 01, 2008 2:04 am

Appreciate the reply. While I've consulted erowid before any adventure (it's a godsend) the other site i'll be checkin out.

Thanks,

Eso
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Re: The Tried and the True (New Garden) -

Postby quantumbrujo » Thu May 01, 2008 2:53 am

Brugmansias always add beauty to any garden.so do morning glories and passionflower.Passion flower has to be the most from outer space kinda looking flower.

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Re: The Tried and the True (New Garden) -

Postby agni » Thu May 01, 2008 2:56 am

elevation?
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Re: The Tried and the True (New Garden) -

Postby Teotzlcoatl » Thu May 01, 2008 9:10 am

I have a list of the best ethnobotanicals, PM me if you want it...
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Re: The Tried and the True (New Garden) -

Postby Eso18 » Thu May 01, 2008 10:44 am

Thanks for the replies, I live around 6800-7000 feet
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Re: The Tried and the True (New Garden) -

Postby Teotzlcoatl » Thu May 01, 2008 10:52 am

List of Worthwhile Ethnobotanicals-


Entheogens-

Banisteriopsis caapi ~ “Vine of the Dead” or “Ayahuasca”
Psychotria viridis
Psilocybian Mushrooms ~ “Teonanacatl”
Ipomoea violacea ~ “Tlitliltzin”
Rivea corymbosa ~ “Ololiuqui”
Argyreia nervosa ~ “Woodrose”
Salvia Divinorum ~ "Pipilzintzintli"
Trichocereus spp. ~ “San Pedro”
Lophophora williamsii ~ “Peyote”
Tabernanthe iboga ~ “Iboga”
Diplopterys cabrerana ~ or “Ayahuasca”
Heimia salicifolia and Heimia myrtifolia ~ “Sinicuichi” or “Sun-Opener”
Mimosa hostilis ~ “Jurema”
Amanita muscaria ~ “Fly Agaric”

Pseudo-Entheogens-

Cannabis sativa ~ “Marijuana”
Brugmansia candida; sanguinea; aurea; vulcanicola ~ “Tree Datura”
Nymphaea caerulea ~ “Blue Lotus”
Nelumbo nucifera ~ “Scared Lotus”
Acorus calamus ~ “Sweet Flag”
Peganum harmala ~ “Syrian Rue”


Psychoactives-

Passiflora incarnata ~ “Passion-Flower”
Erythroxylum spp. ~ “Coca Leaf”
Papaver somniferum ~ “Opium Poppies”
Nicotiana spp. ~ “Tobacco”
Mitragyna speciosa ~ “Kratom”
Humulus lupulus ~ “Hops”
Silene capensis ~ “Root of the White Ways”
Calea zacatechichi ~ “Bitter Dream Herb”
Catha edulis ~ “Khat”
Areca catechu and Piper betle ~ "Betel Nut" and “Betel Leaf”
Leonotis leonurus ~ “Wild Dagga”
Sceletium tortuosum ~ “Kanna”
Duboisia hopwoodii ~ "Pituri"
Pedicularis densiflora ~ “Indian Warrior”
Piper methysticum ~ “Kava Kava”

Ethnobotanicals-

Camellia sinensis ~ “Tea”
Theobroma cacao ~ “Cacao”or “Cocoa” or “Chocolate”
Ilex Paraguariensis ~ “Yerba Mate”
Ephedra spp. ~ “Ma Huang”
Lactuca virosa ~ “Wild Lettuce Opium”
Scutellaria lateriflora ~ “Skullcap”
Valeriana officinalis ~ “Valerian Root”
Verbena hastate “Blue Vervain”
Pausinystalia yohimbe ~ “Yohimbe” Or (Corynanthe yohimbe)
Myristica fragrans ~ “Nutmeg”
Panax spp. ~ “Ginseng”
Artemisia absinthium ~ “Wormwood”
Aspalathus linearis “Rooibos”
Leonurus sibiricus ~ “Motherwort”
Gingko biloba ~ “Gingko”
Rholdia rosea ~ “Golden Root”
Canavalia maritima
Sida acuta
Zornia latifolia
Verbascum blattaria "Moth Mullein"
Osha Root
Yerbe Santa
Lobelia inflata ~ "Indian Tobacco"
Polygala sibirica and Polygala tenuifolia "Taoist Memory enhancer"


Understudied Entheogens, Psychoactives and Other Ethnobotanicals-

Quararibea funebris ~ “Cacahuaxochitl”
Lagochilus inebrians ~ “Turkish Inebriating Mint”
Oncidium ceboletta, Cypripedium calceolus and other psychoactive orchids.
Pancratium trianthum ~ “Kwashi”
Kaempferia galanga ~ “Galanga”
Lycoperdon mixtecorum and Lycoperdon marginotum ~ “Puffballs”
Virola calophylla, Virola colophylloidea, and Virola theiodora~ “Virola”
(Mashi-Hiri) Justicia pectoralis
Anadenanthera peregrina ~ “Yopo”
Anadenanthera colubrina
Tetrapteris methistica ~ “Painted Caapi”
Methysticodendron amesianum ~ “Snake Intoxicant”
Petunia violacea ~ “Shanin”
Tagetes lucida ~ “Mexican Tarragon”
Mucuna pruriens Velvetbeans; Cowhage
Tanaecium nocturnum- aphrodisiac
Cestrum laevigatumn
Coleus Blumei and Coleus Pumilus
Cymbopogon densiflorus- causes dreams which foretell the future.
Maquira sclerophylia ~ “Rapa dos Indios”
Helichrysum foetidum- Zulu Trance Smoke
Scirpus atrovirens - very powerful Mexican herb said to cure insanity
Acacia maidenii
Datura spp.
Sassafras albidum
SHANSHI (Coriaria thymifolia)
Argemone Mexicana ~ "Prickly Poppy"
HELICHRYSUM FOETIDUM - Compositae (Straw Flower)
M.senilis, M.heyderii, M.craigii,
M.grahamii, M.micromeris.
Synsepalum dulcificum ~"Miracle Fruit"
TAIQUE (Desfontainia hookeri)
KEULE (Gomortega keule)
Iochroma
Voacanga africana
Desfontainia spinosa
Bufo alvarius
Add toads and animals
Catharanthus roseus (Madagascar Periwinkle)
And other interesting plants!


Suspected Psychoactive Cacti-

Ariocarpus agavoides
Ariocarpus fissuratus
Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus
Ariocarpus retusus
Astrophytum asterias
Astrophytum myriostigma
Aztekium ritterii
Carnegiea gigantea
Coryphantha compacta
Coryphantha elephantidens
Coryphantha macromeris
Echinocactus platyacanthus (Echinocactus visnaga)
Echinocereus salm-dyckianus (Echinocereus scheeri)
Echinocereus polyacanthus
Epithalantha micromeris
Lophophora williamsii
Lophophora diffusa
Mammillaria grahamii
Mammillaria heyderi
Mammillaria (Dolichothele) longimamma
Mammillaria pectinifera (Solisia pectinata)
Mammillaria (Mamillopsis) senilis
Mammillaria sonorensis (Mammillaria craigii)
Matucana madisoniorum
Neoraimondia macrostibas
Obregonia denegrii
Pachycereus pecten-aboriginum
Pachycereus pringlei
Pelecyphora aselliformis
Strombocactus disciformis
Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele
Turbinicarpus pseudopectinatus (Pelecyphora pseudopectinata)
Trichocereus species


“Cimora” Brew Plants and Admixtures-

Trichocereus spp.
Neoraimondia macrostibas
Pedilanthus tithymaloides
Isotoma longiflora
Brugmansia spp.
Iresine spp.
Datura spp.

The Baneful Botanicals-

Old World-

Atropa belladonna ~ “Nightshade” or “Belladonna”
Digitalis purpura ~ "Foxglove"
Atropa mandragora (Mandragora officinalis) ~ “Mandrake”
Hyoscyamus niger ~ “Henbane”
Tabernatnthe Iboga ~ “Iboga Root”
Amanita muscaria ~ “Fly Agaric”
Helleborus niger ~ “Hellebore”
Acorus calamus ~ “Sweet Flag”
Peganum harmala ~ “Syrian Rue”


New World-

Ariocarpus retusus
Brugmansia spp.
Datura spp.
Brunfelsia spp.
Saphora secundiflora ~ “Mescal Bean”
Pernettya furens and Pernettya parvifolia ~"Hierba Loca"
Methysticodendron amesianum ~ “Snake Intoxicant”
Iochroma fuchsioides ~ “Borrachera”
Latua pubiflora ~ “Arbol De Los Brujos”
Nicotiana spp. ~ “Tobacco”


Xochipilli/Macuilxochitl "Prince of Flowers" Statue Botanicals-

Psilocybe aztecorum ~ “Mushrooms”
Nicotiana tabacum ~ “Tobacco”
Rivea corymbosa ~ “Ololiuqui”
Heimia salicifolia and/or Heimia myrtifolia ~ “Sun-Opener” or “Sinicuichi”
Quararibea funebris ~ “Cacahuaxochitl”
And one unidentified flower suspected to be a Brugmansia spp. or Datura spp.
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Re: The Tried and the True (New Garden) -

Postby Himdumb » Thu May 01, 2008 3:26 pm

Did you even read the post? He ask for plants that he can grow in Colorado.

Not plants that you have decided are entheogens and pseudo-entehogens (whatever that is)? You need to read more, and post less.
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Re: The Tried and the True (New Garden) -

Postby deadtotheworld » Thu May 01, 2008 3:26 pm

Now was that list really necessary?
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